In this video Ray Polen from Deck Restoration Plus demonstrates the wrong and right way to clean, restore and wet on wet stain a very old wood fence using Deck Restoration Plus products. This video is 30 minutes long, so grab a beverage, note pad, and be sure to take notes.
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Transcript of Wood Fence Cleaning, Restoration
Josh Wagner (00:00):
All right. What's up guys, this Old Man Wags here with Dirt Killer pressure washers. Today, we are here with guest speaker, Ray Polen from Deck Restoration Plus. We're gonna let him take the stage in a moment as he demos some of his products for us. So, Ray, go ahead and show us what you got.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (00:14):
How's everybody doing today? I'm Ray and I'm with deck restoration, plus the nation's leader at deck cleaning and deck restoration products. And just wanna do a quick demo and show you about what it's like to take care of wood the real way days gone by. We really just would come in there and throw sh or bleach and stuff like that on the wood, bleach it out and stuff like that. We can't afford to do that anymore. Wood prices, what they are today. It's really going through all the construction wood that was used to build a deck, all that just triple went through the roof. So if we're gonna put that stuff out there and it's gonna last 30 years, there's a standard we gotta follow. And that talks about keeping the wood preserved and following the proper steps in preserving that wood.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (00:53):
So we're gonna touch on the four main principles about doing this. And one of the things you gotta do when you're restoring any type of wood, you're cleaning any type of wood we're gonna talk about the difference between cleaning and restoration. You might think there's a big difference. We're gonna show you what that difference is. So the standards in wood restoration wood cleaning are first off. You're gonna have to wet the wood. You just can't come in here and throw soaps bleach or chemicals on that. You have to think about wood. You know, as a living breathing thing, you know, it was once living with nice trees and leaves and stuff like that on it, but it's made up of, you know, cellulose and it's what we get our paper from. So when you throw chemicals on there, it just shoots the whole match out there.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (01:33):
The lignin that holds it all together, you know, or like the ligaments in our body. It's what keeps us there. When we put heavy solvents or, or caustic stuff on there, it just breaks it down. Bleach for instance, will take out all the tannins, which gives wood, its natural color. We don't have a whole lot of time to talk about different species of wood. That's more in our class, but let's just talk about the standard in wood restoration. And that deals with one, you gotta pre-wet the wood down, you gotta open it up. And the reason for that is, is all the green stuff and the gray, the mold algae, and lichen, you see on the wood that gathers on decks and on the sides of houses, that's on the surface, right? So if we're gonna use something to clean this off, first off, we've gotta get in there.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (02:12):
Now a lot of people try and get in there with a power washer and think that it's gonna get out. Let me let you know right now, anybody that's out there dealing with exterior wood whether it be decks homes fences, anything a pressure washer is not gonna clean that. A pressure washer is gonna take away some of that material up there. It's gonna take away a whole lot of it. And that deck that was supposed to last 25 to 30 years, you just halved it. And on top of that, you're not really doing a good service to the wood or the homeowner. So we're gonna open that wood up.. Wood. The, the water is a barrier to that, right? It's gonna get in there is gonna loosen everything up. The gray fibers that you see on this. This is the cellulous right? These are the old wood fibers that have come and gone, lived their life.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (02:52):
The sun has bleached them out and they're ready to go, right? So it's a pretty bright indicative of what's going on here. So what we're gonna do is we're gonna wa wet that down. We're gonna start freeing up some of that lignin. We're gonna moisturize the tannins again, which give the wood its natural color, and we're gonna let that stuff soak into the wood. Because like I said, again, it's on the surface and we want to get it out. We don't need to go deep down into the wood. We don't need to be doing bone surgery for a little bit of cosmetics. Do you understand? So what we're gonna do first is we're gonna wet the wood down. Then we're gonna choose some type of cleaner. Typically a lot of guys are gonna run up and they're gonna use bleach a regular house mix.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (03:28):
Well, I just told you bleach all that that's gonna do. It's gonna turn all those tannins white. It's gonna break down the lignin and that wood's gonna fuzz up and it's really not gonna be the optimum look for this home owner. Right? So when we're talking about deck cleaning, deck restoration, wood restoration, we're always gonna talk about the manufacturers on the sides of all their labels. It doesn't matter who the major manufacturers are. We always talk about the optimum result and the optimal result is always achieved by doing the prep work. So it would stand a reason. All our prep is what's gonna be in our put in, in the, in the end. We're gonna go ahead and wet the surface down. We're gonna choose a cleaner, we're gonna show you the difference between, you know, a regular house wash mix, the preferred method to clean wood.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (04:07):
Like this is gonna be used with, you know, a powdered bleach, often known as, you know, Oxy clean, but that's sodium percarbonate, right? And then we're gonna give you a demonstration of using other products like sodium metasilicate. Sodium metasilicate came about when we first had Trexs and the original generation of composite woods. The manufacturers had to find a way to clean that stuff. And it really became a two part process. And that two part process involved getting all the organics out of the wood, you know, the, the, the mold, the lichen the algae and stuff like that, that was the, the first purpose or the first step was to get all that and kill it, get it outta there. The sodium metasilicate. Now that's an alkaloid it's gonna get in the wood. It's got the lifting properties, right?
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (04:49):
It's gonna get all that schmutz outta there and it's gonna lift them outta there. And then the third step we're gonna talk about, well, the second and third step are kind of the same thing. Once we put our cleaners on there, right? We're gonna rinse, rinse, rinse, rinse, and rinse again. And the reason we wanna do that is if, if the truth is all the work is done in the prep, we want all the soap. We want all the cleaners. We want everything out of the wood, right? If we try putting something on to contaminated wooden, but contaminate, I mean still soaps, organics and stuff like that. It's not gonna be the optimal finish. It's not gonna be optimal. Look, you're gonna get a call back from your homeowner. So again, we want to go for the optimum look, we're gonna put that on there.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (05:25):
We're gonna rinse it off, make sure everything is offered there. And then that last part we're gonna hit it with a brightener, right? So typically when we're talking about brightness, we're talking about oxalic acid in the past. You know, you want to looking at some stuff like fo phosphorous phosphor acid and citric acid, those just are not strong enough. And when we're dealing with oxalic acid, you're gonna get a lot of nail bleeds. What the oxalic acid does is if we're talking about the pH scale, right, we're gonna run those alkaloids way up there on a pH scale from, you know, zero to 14, 7 being in the middle. We're gonna need to neutralize that, right? We're gonna need to bring it back down to the woods, natural color. So going back over this again, we're gonna use a powdered oxygenated bleach, right?
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (06:06):
And then we're also gonna demonstrate our restore. We're gonna demonstrate what it's like after we clean and do that. We've also got our stripper here. Now we've been challenged with some Ready Seal. And we brought that with us. We did this board a month ago later in this video, we're gonna show you what that looks like, how our stripper stands up against what we're told to be one of the most difficult stains for you, the contractor here in the Baltimore area to get rid of. So we're gonna see what that looks like later in the video right now, we're gonna start the process, right? So our process is gonna be let the wood, we're gonna clean the wood with all the different cleaners. We're gonna show you what that does. You know, the bleach is gonna bleach it out. We're gonna show you what the, the powder bleach does.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (06:44):
And then we're gonna show you what the sodium metasilicate does. And we're gonna show you what the stripper does. But back to that two part process with the, with with the composites, back in the day, you had to use the you had to use the powder bleach, and then you had to come in with the sodium metasilicate. And then lastly, you had to come in with the brightener, something to brightener, because back then we used to use red Oak, right? And all that composite you'd get that brownish black leaching. That's why, if you ever just go over there and you float bleach on it, you don't neutralize it. Your homeowner's gonna have a whole bunch of what looks like, you know, popcorn marks all over their deck. All the White's gonna show up, especially if it's a really dark older like that red and black Trex it'll show up.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (07:24):
So let's go ahead and get this process started. Again, like I said, we're gonna create that barrier. We're gonna wet all this wood down, right? You wanna open up the follicles if you will, the cells of that wood and allow it to get in there. And you're gonna see it's to starting to darken up, right? We're adding the moisture back into the wood. We're creating that optimum surface. So the first thing that we're gonna do is we're gonna leave this one board over here, kind of as a control, you're gonna get to see the before and after. This is gonna be to the before and all of these are gonna be after. So we're gonna start out with usually our house mix, which most guys are using to bleach. It's a surfactant and some water. And they're gonna throw that on there.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (08:04):
And typically when you're using a house wash mix, all these elements, you're gonna have to allow a certain amount of dwell time. If you don't allow 'em the dwell, then they really can't do their work. But I gotta tell you, when you use bleach or house wash mix, and you put it on something, it's only gonna be active on the first thing it touches. And the reason for that is, is bleach is made for non-porous surfaces, right? It's made for food places it's made for stuff and sanitation like that. It's not made for porous surfaces. So when it gets here on the wood, the first thing it hits is gonna be that algae, right? It's not gonna go any further. That's why the, the perfected method of wood cleaning is with an Oxy clean with a sodium percarbonate and sod percarbonate is gonna get past all that stuff where the bleach just stops.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus
It's gonna actually get in the wood, get past that barrier in the surface. And it's gonna effectively start to treat that. Now you can literally see it starting to work. As we're doing this process, you can literally see it starting to lighten up. It's come back a little bit of the house wash mix, because it's a lot hot out here. Isn't the boys and girls. So we're gonna wet that down. Pretty good. We, a house wash mix. We got our sodium percarbonate and going back to the sodium percarbonate I just wanna make clear on one thing that when we do that, it's going past all of the other elements where the bleach is just stopping. It's only getting stuff on the surface. This is gonna work its way all the way down inside it. Now we start adding the sodium metasilicate. You're gonna see the wood actually start to turn a little bit darker.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus
That's because of alkaline in there, and it's really getting past there. And it's raising all that stuff up out of the wood, right? The sodium percarbonate the bleach. It's just gonna keep our light and it, well, when we start hitting the woods in the tannins with the sodium metasilicate and those alkaloids, it's really gonna take it up and notch, and it's gonna get in there and get closer to those natural tannins of the wood. It's not gonna take out the color, the sodium percarbonate, you'll see that it's actually working pretty good against the the bleach, right? So now we're gonna come in. We're gonna do two of those panels, right? And it's getting a little dry. So at 160,000 degrees today here in Baltimore, you're gonna wanna keep that wood wet. Now, at any point in time, you're gonna wanna keep that surface wet.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus
Even when you're putting it on for application. When you reapply, you're still gonna wet it down. The surface has to stay wet, right? You don't want this stuff drying out. You don't wanna put it on with nothing on there. It'll flash dry. It'll effectively defeat the purpose of even doing that. So, lastly, we're gonna come in with our stripper, okay? And we're gonna hit this. We're gonna do this last two boards with the stripper. And we're also gonna hit this part. We do with the Ready Seal. And we'll come back later and check that out. Now with the stripper and our cleaners, the optimum dwell time. As I talked about earlier, for any of this, it's gonna be between, you know, seven to 10 minutes, typical with anything. You let it dwell. You let it sit on there. You let it do its work. Now here, we're gonna apply it right here to the Ready Seal.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus
That's gonna be on there 30 minutes. Anytime you're stripping something, it's gonna be on there. Roughly you have to check the manufacturer specs with the Deck Restoration Plus stuff. We're gonna apply for 30 minutes, very liberally. Right? See, we're not inundating anything. We're gonna go ahead and keep this surface nice and wet. Right? Let all that stuff. Well, give it a nice spray down, keeping everything moist and letting it stay active. Right? We'll come back in about four or five minutes and we're gonna show you the results. We're gonna start rinsing this for you. Okay. But let our stuff dwell or while we're let it dwell. Sometimes even in today, real world experience is just like we are here today. 93 degrees out Baltimore, east coast. It's really humid. So you really gotta pay attention to keeping your cleaners moist, right? So you gotta splash 'em a little bit, but let's go back and talk about the strippers.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (11:56):
Back in the day, a lot of guys used to just come in and they would throw sodium hydroxide on stuff. And it worked really good on a lot of the oil based stuff and things like that. But let's talk about what happened and why things are different. Why we have to keep up the pace with all our different strippers cleaners and our different finishes more so than anything. Even like I said, the major manufacturers, their stuff you're gonna buy at home Depot is not gonna take their stuff off. Behr all those other one. I don't know if I'm supposed to mention them or not, but they're gonna tell you even their own strippers have a hard time taking it off. Now let's say you add in, you know, you got the sodium hydroxide and the sodium metasilicate in there, but what about, you know, you've got the old stripper kind of with the new cleaner and a stripper, but a lot of guys, what they used to do to the sodium hydroxide don't know more difficult stains is they would throw a butyl in there.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (12:40):
And I got subcontractors that use like Simple Green to cleaner decks. Well, that's what a good butyl is. If you wanna look that up on our website, we'll explain what that more is. But when you're talking about a stripper that can't get oil or water and they have difficulties, we're really gonna see what it comes into play with the Deck Restoration Plus stripper, because over the years after having defined all this and look at different coverings when the federal government came in in 2009 with the new laws of VOCs and took a lot of those old strippers off the market, contractors like myself and you guys out there were left, go, what do we do? Right? So we put a lot of time and a lot of energy and certainly a lot of money and to make sure our contractors like ourself and other guys and girls out there doing the same thing for the homeowners that have the best product out there.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (13:20):
So you're gonna find out what it's like to have the sodium hydroxide, the sodium metasilicate in there, right? The potassium hydroxide in there it's gonna get in there. The potassium hydroxide gets you all these really thick, clear wood finish type things. And it smaller molecule. So sodium hydroxide and the metasilicate is gonna provide that lift. Right? But the potassium hydroxide, it's a smaller molecule. It gets in there deeper. And it really starts to lift that stuff out there. Starts to bubble it on the surface, what all that typical stuff. Right? So when we hit that, and the reason we're using a brush is it's simulating the agitation we're gonna use in a pressure, a washer. And when I talk about using a pressure washer, we're not talking about 10 gallons a minute at, at 4,000 PSI, we're gonna destroy the wood. Remember I told you bleach doesn't restore wood, nor does pressure washing, right?
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (14:06):
So we're looking for an optimal pressure on the wood surface, about 10 inches away, anywhere from 800 to a thousand PSI max, and where you're talking about soft woods, like Cedar and things like that, you really wanna stay away from that. And there's technique involved in there. Just not splashing it around. You wanna create like a pendulum motion coming up and down and feathered you, you wanna start off the wood and end off of the wood, right? So we've let this dwell, we're gonna get in there and see what that house wash mix does as opposed to the sodium percarbonate and then the stripper as well. So we've already gotten in there, we've got our control piece. That's the bleach, the house wash mix. You see, it really started to bleach it out as opposed to what the sodium for carbonate did the sodium for carbonate, even though it did lighten it up, as we saw very early on, it does get in there and actually darken up the wood a little bit more obviously than a bleach.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (15:01):
And we're gonna start to see that really the proof is gonna be in the pudding. Once we rinse all this out and we use our brightener, our oxalic acid, right? So there's the sodium metasilicate, our deck restore. Again, we recommend these things could be mixed at any type of ratio between our best bet. You could use our restore as, as a light very heavy, cleaner, if you will, based upon the ratio or a light stripper, which is to say, if you mix it a lower ratio, like a, a three to one, four to one, it has that stripping ability, right? As opposed to you know, sodium per carbonate and stuff like that, which is just gonna be your cleaner and your restore. You see all those bubbles coming out of there. That's why once we rinse we go back and we rinse again. And when we're done rinsing, let's be honest with you, each other folks, we're gonna have to rinse again.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (15:52):
You want to keep going. We're looking again for the optimal results. When we put this stain on long after we're gone, the homeowner needs to look at this right now, manufacturer's saying, we're gonna put this on this wood in optimum conditions. We're gonna have to come out at some point in time and maintain this. You just can't put it on there and forget it. Right? The manufacturers tell you require maintenance. the same thing with Deck Restoration Plus products. You're gonna come out here and we're gonna lightly clean that up. Right? And then we're gonna reapply our stains. It's just not a one and done, forget it with stains. It's actually involves some maintenance. Manufacturers have maintenance. Deck Restoration Plus has maintenance. You should be performing as a contractor, some type of maintenance. You know, if you're just there for your client one time and on to the next one, I don't know about you, but we have clients that we've been servicing for 20, 25 years.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (16:40):
And we just keep going back. Owners have taken over places, just like one of the places we finished this weekend, right? So we're there taking care of the wood. You wanna make sure you develop that relationship and you create the optimum atmosphere. So that way after you're long and gone, that wood still looks great until it's time for that maintenance clean, which you know, probably could be depending on where you live environmental factors, it could be anywhere from two years to three years. Certainly more sunnier places are gonna require that you do it a little bit more often because the sun let's face it. It's just gonna bake all that away. Okay. We still got some soap in there which means we really gotta get in there and rinse that pretty good. See all that stuff going away. You want all that off of there,
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (17:30):
Right? So now what we've done, we're putting those cleaners on there, even with the bleach and the powder bleach, the sodium percarbonate, the sodium metasilicate with our Deck Restoration Plus restorer, and then our stripper, right after putting that all on there, you could see how the wood has gotten lightened on the left hand side of this video with the house wash mix, right? It's kind of bleached out some areas. This got a little bit darker, but with the alkaloids, the sodium metasilicate, the sodium hydroxide, the potassium hydroxide. It's gonna get those tannins back to their natural color. It's not gonna bleach it out, like make it really white. Like you're gonna get with other things with bleach in it. So let's continue rinsing this off
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (18:10):
And I'm gonna show you where the magic really happens. We've really taken this stuff up the pH scale with those alkaloids in there. Now we're gonna have to neutralize that surface. So that way it could be the optimum surface to accept your stains, your sealers, whether you know, you're putting on the Deck Restoration Plus, or whether you're putting on oil base, you really need to understand that this stuff has to get outta here. Now, one of the things I'm gonna tell you, if you're gonna use an oil based, if you're gonna use any of the hybrids that we've come out with today, right? You gotta check the manufacturer specs, especially with hardwood. It's a whole different ballgame, but most of the wood that we're using today decks is a, a pine as opposed to a hardwood. This is a soft wood you're gonna have to get in there and get all that stuff out of there. And now what we're gonna do is we're gonna reintroduce the natural tannins of the wood. And this is where the magic comes into play. You can literally see this happen. As I start applying this, you're gonna see this wood literally change in front of your eyes.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (19:24):
You see that you can see this piece right here with the sodium percarbonate is really starting to come lighter than with the bleach fluid, the house wash mix, And let's get into the sodium metasilicate see, it's starting to come back to its natural color real quick. And again, this is really, really getting that wood back to its natural tone. Getting the tannins relaxing. The tannins are what make up, give the wood. It's natural tone and it's natural color. Again. You can see it right in front of your very eyes. We're just gonna put it on right here from the bottom up to the middle. So that way you can kind of see the difference on these last couple boards.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (20:08):
One of the great things about using oxalic acid is all these nail holes on decks and fences and stuff like that. It's gonna get rid of all the rust stains. It's gonna pull it outta there, right? So when we're talking about an optimum surface, do we wanna go back in without putting a brightener on that? You see how it looks all the way across there brand new wood night and day. Jekyll and Hyde. We've only done half of this board, right? This is with the tannins still affected by the alkaloid. Watch what happens. Say goodbye. It's like magic. And again, if we're following the side of the can, ladies and gentlemen, you're always gonna see manufacture specification, refer to optimum conditions. Whether that's weather we've already talked about where all the work comes out, the finished product is predicated on all the prep, right?
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus(21:06):
If you're not doing the right prep, why you're doing it, if you just wanna sling bleach, you're leaving a lot of money for us on the table, right? The days of the dinosaur, just coming out, throwing sodium hydroxide on it, hitting with a pressure washer, throwing bleach on it. They're long gone. You're ineffective with today's coatings and coverings. Like I said, 2020. And moving on, a lot of the manufacturers are really going towards something more water based and more friendly, not only for the homeowner, but for us the contractor, because we gotta maintain this. Decks are a really big investment, right? No matter whether it's Trex or whether it's wood, we gotta maintain it the proper way to get the most bang for our buck. So the Forest Industry Products Laboratory says, anytime you introduce any type of chemical, cleaner, solvent, or anything like that to the wood, the standard is wet
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (21:56):
the wood do what you're gonna do to it, brighten it, right. And as far as bright goes, we don't rinse the brightener off. We let it be. There's nothing in there. It's neutral, right? The surface is now neutral. We can let that dry. Okay. So we're not gonna rinse it off. You can rinse it off if you like to, but let the wood do what it's gonna do. We've seen with the house wash mix. It's kinda a lot brighter at taking a tennins out. Now you can get away with this and a homeowner, somebody less learned than us. It's gonna say, well, that doesn't look bad and we can get with that. But really what's that say? Does that meet up with the optimum conditions that we've set? Is this a standard that we're gonna meet? Did it meet the standard? Well, if we gotta answer that question, it's really no.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (22:38):
So we move on to the sodium percarbonate right? The oxygenated bleach and then the sodium metasilicate and then our stripper. And as you can see, as we start getting over here with the sodium metasilicate you see the natural heart of the wood coming back into there, that nice rich tone. That's really what the homeowner wants to see and our coverings and our finishes. That really depends on that's where you're bringing the customer into it. Most of the mechanism, how to clean this, this is all you, the contractor. We wanna really highlight the natural tone of this. So it's up to you to decide what's gonna be the easiest for you to maintain. Not always is it gonna be the customer's choice, let them stick to color, but you and I both know we're gonna have to maintain this. So you're gonna find something like a water based Deck Restoration Plus.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (23:24):
It's a water based. You put it on, depending on the surface, you do your maintenance. You come out for a light cleaning. This is what, we're your use a house wash mix. Of course, we're gonna use a little bit of sh with some detergent on there, right? We're gonna clean that. Then we're gonna neutralize it again and reapply our same. That's what a maintenance coat is. And it'll last like that. For 25 to 30 years. Left untreated, our wood is gonna check crack, turn black and just do all kinds of nasty stuff. You guys have seen it when you showed up on jobs before. But I think right now, this is pretty good representation. We'd have to let the wood dry and get it to around 13%. I think it is 15% below for hardwood. And 10, 10%, I believe for, for Pines and other soft wood and stuff like that before we start putting some type of sealer or stain on that.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (24:07):
But here's the big difference. This is what sets us aside. Deck Restoration, plus stains and sealers. You're gonna be able to put these on, on wet wood. And it's gonna look no different than as if you put it on dry wood. We're gonna show you that here in this demonstration, okay, we're gonna let this dry off first. We're gonna come back, wet the wood down. We're gonna apply our stain. You're gonna see it's no different whether we apply it wet or dry. Now the positive side of applying to wet wood. You guys can come in here. You could clean this wood in the morning time, get their fence, their deck, it all clean. You get it bright. And before lunchtime even hits, you're taking a break. You're getting lunch. You can come back. The wood is still wet after you new neutralize it, you can put the stain on with your first coat.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (24:49):
And we apply our, our stains on wet on wet meeting. We're not gonna let this board dry out, right? It's we can use it on wet wood. Unlike other stuff, you start letting it dry. It's gonna show a variation in color, one board from the next. So we're gonna put this old wet wood. We're gonna put it on wet on wet. We're gonna treat the, this, and I'm gonna show you more about that. Wet on wet technique. When we come back, we've already done our deck restoration demo. We're gonna wet the wood down and show you what it's like to put it on wet on wet. Now you see, when we put this water back on there automatically, it shows the natural beauty of the wood after we've done restore it. The optimum result is there for us to stain it. So now we're gonna use the, I have Deck Restoration Plus stain. This is one of our newer colors, the Beach Haven Black. It's a very, very similar tint to the Ready Seal. We're gonna go ahead and apply that wet on wet.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (25:43):
And unlike putting this stuff on from top to bottom, when you're doing vertical surfaces, like a painter would do, we're gonna put this on from the bottom up. And the reason for that being is, if you start at the top, right? Every little drip mark, this is a two coat process, right? Every little drip mark that goes on there. By the time you get down, that's your first coat. By the time you get around to put your set and coat on, that's your third coat, right? Those drip marks will be your third. And the surface is gonna look like it has freckles. So that's why we do it from the bottom to the top in a wet, wet method, right? When all this stuff goes on, you're gonna see, and it highlights the wood very nicely. We're gonna come up and we're gonna put it on nice and liberally.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (26:22):
Bring it up, apply it right next to the next coat. Get it all in there all the way up the wood wet on wet method blended all in and come up. Now, if you're gonna be spraying this, we're gonna go all in one direction. A lot of folks have a tendency, especially on fences to wanna spray this top and bottom. Drip marks! Wrong answer. We're gonna spray it with the same technique we are professionals. It's gonna show up and the end result. So we're gonna put this on. Up. Stop. Up, not the up and down. Again at a professional finish we're professionals. Let's remember this. Okay. So the two coat process wet on wet. This wood is still wet. We're gonna start at the bottom, get it up there, get it into the wood. Like I said, these are a water based stain that really perform just so great, like an oil based. And there you go. That's a wet, all wet method. Two coats with your stain. I finished it off with the final process of the standard wood restoration. That's with our Deck Restoration Plus water based stain and sealer. We appreciate your time. If you have any more questions, please give us a call at Deck Restoration. Plus give the folks a Dirt Killer call. We'll be more than happy to answer them.
Josh Wagner (27:46):
Hey guys, we're gonna pick up right where we left off. If you noticed we have stained two of our boards, Ray, why don't you go ahead and tell us the difference between the
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (27:53):
Two of them. Okay. So like I said, when we've did this originally did our demo Deck Restoration Plus is a water based stain that behaves like an oil, quite frankly it can be put on wet wood. So the board to the left, there is our stain put on the wood right after we finished our restoration demo. And then we waited for the wood to dry out. And the board on the right is the very same stain put on dry wood and it's done like that. So that way we could show you the contrast and difference when you put this Deck Restoration Plus stain on a wood surface, wet or dry. There's not much if any at all. So again, just another valuable tool. Why will we use that? It's ready. It's available. It doesn't take two or three days. We're not waiting for stuff to dry out.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus(28:36):
Literally you're coming in, you're doing a deck restoration, you're doing a cleaning. And then maybe another reapply after your maintenance or whether it's brand new install, you're coming in, you're cleaning it. It you're rinsing it. You're right. You're following the standard of wood restoration. And then you're gonna put this on. You. Don't have to wait for the wood to dry out to less than 10%. You can literally put it on wet wood. Would you put it in puddle wood? I would think that would create a problem, but let's keep it safe and say wet, wet wood. That's on the left hand side. Look at the right hand side. No difference whatsoever. That means it relates to more hours for you to get to the next customer and do the same quality fine optimal job with the product available here with you fine folks at Dirt Killer. Why would you not come here? Easy.
Josh Wagner (29:15):
I appreciate that Ray. So just to sum up on the left hand side, we have wet down the wood. Maybe let it sit. What do you think? Five minutes before
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (29:22):
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (29:23):
Stain and then the wood on the right. I don't even think that's set for about two hours. You can see the different, the wood, not completely dry, completely cured. Both application processes did a really nice job. Very even very thorough laid through the entire thing. They was a very nice dark color. I was talking to Ray and I want to ask him, what's the advantage to doing this? What's it gonna look like three years from now? What's it gonna look like when you, as a contractor are gonna follow up with this job and reapply some stain after a couple seasons, what are we
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Pluss (29:50):
Looking at? Okay. The easy answer is this is, we don't know. Okay. Right? Because of mitigating factors that horizontal full sun stuff like this. So that's, what's keeping in touch with keeping up the date with the coverages. And course, you know, you gotta follow manufacturer specifications. You're looking at restating this probably in a really harsh environment in one to two years, maybe more sun, more shade, all mitigating factors, follow manufacturer specifications with this we're coming back in and about eight, 18 months doing a maintenance cleaning on this and a reapplication still keeping its natural luster. No difference in tone, color and or shade. And again, the ease of use it's in one day out.
Josh Wagner (30:26):
Okay. Awesome. Thank you very much, Ray. I appreciate you coming down for us today.
Ray Polen - Deck Restoration Plus (30:30):
Thank you so much.
Josh Wagner (30:30):
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